Hans Niemann Chess Cheating Accusation – Game Analysis with Stockfish

Hans Niemann Chess Cheating Accusation – Game Analysis with Stockfish. Hans Niemann vs Matthieu Cornette, chess analysis of their 2020 chess game, a game used by Yosha as evidence of chess cheating at 100% engine game correlation.

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  1. Why is cheating mentioned in the title, then nothing about it in the video?

  2. Actually Hans Niemann is a 2800 rated player?

  3. Canโ€™t we just lay this dead and respect the fact Hans is the first 3000 rater player

  4. When will this stop? Everybody knows Magnus Carlsen has no evidence, physical, whatsoever. We've been taken into a ride to this online cheating scandal, whereas the issue in question is the Sinquefield Cup, OTB chess not online.

  5. Well done. Please continue to run Stockfish for all cheating-related content. The viewers need to see this in order to come to an informed opinion. I would go so far as to say that for cheating-related content you ought to have the engine running at all times with the top 3 moves displayed (both sides). If you can manage this that would be good.

  6. In addition, since this analysis is meant to either concur with or refute the idea that Nieman was cheating, you ought to briefly state for each move "this is engine No1" or "this is engine Top 3" etc. The viewer can do this themselves by pausing the video before each move and observing the evaluation panel – however, since in the introduction to this video you specifically state that you will run Stockfish and that the purpose of this is to analyse whether or not the idea that Niemann played a 100% game holds water – you ought be commenting after each Niemann move whether or not it accords with Stockfish – and whether it is 1, 2 or 3. Regards.

  7. I do appreciate Hansโ€™ optimistic eval of the position at 4:15 – Stockfish says +0.5, Hans says itโ€™s lost for Black. To me, it speaks to how he trusts his intuition and attacking abilities. My understanding of engines is that they are conservative, the opposite of Hansโ€ฆ ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™

  8. ๐“ข๐“ช๐“ฟ๐“ช๐“ท๐“ฝ ๐“–๐“ช๐“ป๐“ญ๐“ฎ says:

    Hans is gonna play in the U.S championship in a few hours…. Everybody will be watching him.

  9. Hans is so good, he already checkmate you while you still in loading screen.

  10. Good stuff! Thanks for the engine-assisted analysis of Niemann's game. Very well played game by Niemann!

  11. ๐“ข๐“ช๐“ฟ๐“ช๐“ท๐“ฝ ๐“–๐“ช๐“ป๐“ญ๐“ฎ says:

    How do you get Hans annotations for this game?

  12. i dont understand chess much.. but still hans smells fishy..
    he has no humility
    he call people stupid
    no real chess talent trash talks..
    or may be
    he is alien

  13. I think Hans' comments are most helpful here. It goes to show he actually thought this game through and perhaps did not simply use an engine.

  14. It's interesting that he has annotations for stockfish games so perhaps he is using them literally as a coach where he guesses and then looks at the actual best move and then correcting his opinions with the bots opinions. This would indeed be a smart way to learn faster than normal because stockfish would have better move suggestions than any human.

  15. This is the best picture of hans that i saw so far but i mean the man has no pictures where is looks formal?

  16. Iโ€™ve stopped watching chess for quite sometime. Thanks to this โ€œcheating scandalโ€ Iโ€™m back at it again. Chess is my favorite sport.

  17. So itโ€™s 100% correlation even though he played 2 moves that were -1 to -2 for white? Stockfish does that? Thatโ€™s equivalent to giving a pawn or two without any compensation.
    If thatโ€™s 100% engine correlation game then Iโ€™m James Bond

  18. Would love to hear you explain away the most recent evidence in the Hans saga. To be more specific I am referencing the average centi-pawn lose data.

  19. stockfish did play beautifully in this middlegame tho

  20. Nice video, little imprecision at 8:15 : the king can actually take the queen but then Ra7 discovered check and you lose your 2 rooks

    Matthieu Cornette is a really nice guy and often appears on Blitzstream channel as an analyst or commentator

  21. I don't know if I can articulate this very well … I've got a genuine love for some of the chess channels that don't have a million subscribers yet .. this one and Jozarov's come to mind. Somehow they give me more a sense of the miracle that is the internet; it gifts one a window through which to see how small the world really is. Anyway, Epic, people like you legitimately have a transcendent impact in this world. As an art theorist, I particularly enjoy the aesthetics I get from this channel and Jozarov's as well. From your production I really appreciate the minimalist perfection that you have created here … not just with the visuals but also the honestly humble matter of fact-ness of your vocal delivery and overall diction. to me it is fascinating the way some people or some artists or artworks are clearly not trying to massively change the world but merely trying to make the world a little bit better. Frank Lloyd Wright believed one should never build on top of a hill or mountain because Then you lose the mountain. He also stated that a building should be a grace upon the land that it sits … reminds me of this channel

  22. I am getting sick of the chess community to be honest.
    It is clear that Hans is a very strong player, engine corrolation means little in my opinion. A strong player is going to play the strongest line, that is obvious. Honestly just think Magnus Carlsen is a cry baby and needs to leave chess for good

  23. Move list with commentaries on the right of the board is a great addition. I think that itโ€™s even more important than the engine evaluation. Why? Because this allows to make the videos more educational. You could show how other grandmaster played some critical positions and explain if their moves were better and why. Thatโ€™s if you want to pick this route, of course.

  24. Thanks for yet another excellent video on this subject keeping busy people like me fully informed.
    I note in his conclusion Nate Salon writes:-

    Does this prove that Niemann didnโ€™t cheat?

    No, it just shows that the analysis currently being used to implicate him doesnโ€™t hold up.

    In my view Hans Niemann does not need to prove that he did not cheat.

    It is his accusers who need to prove that he did.

    In this so far they have totally failed.

    The presumption of innocence until proven guilty has to be defended and upheld.

  25. so how accurate was he ? picked always top 3 moves ?

  26. this precise strategic analysis makes the sin q game more fishy

  27. Thank you for the video. I was longing to see this.

  28. You didnโ€™t say whether the moves he played was the move recommended by Stockfish (#1) or #2, #3 etc. itโ€™s hard to compare with the engine on the side when youโ€™re going fast.

  29. I feel like that bishop shuffle where it moves to one square then back and then plays back again is kind of sus because Stockfish likes to do that.

  30. Hans is extremely unlucky. He only cheated twice in his life and got caught both times.

  31. You cant tell if someone is good at cheating . They can simply choose the more humanistic lines or ideas. Only a rookie cheater would keep choosing the top move by an engine. Im not implying Hans cheated because there is no proof that I have seen thus far.

  32. Nice ๐Ÿ‘this really adds to your commentary

  33. To be honest, all moves by white look kinda natural to me. What if he didn't cheat in the games where he scored 100%?

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